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		<title>Comment on National Science Day(Celebrating Raman) by Amiya Sarkar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amiya Sarkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with your views; they are rational, scientific and to the point! 
The paper definitely needed to substantiate &#039;facts&#039; with PROPER references; and that Shockley was an &#039;anti black&#039;-- has little relevance on his scientific methods. 
Don&#039;t know why the media goes so bonkers even about American scientists whose grandparents once lived in India and waste no time in claiming the Nobel as an India earned one! They then count the spoils on a regional basis! It&#039;s so mean.
You approach to this &#039;piece of news&#039; is perfectly in tune to that of a scientist.
Thanks Nayagam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with your views; they are rational, scientific and to the point!<br />
The paper definitely needed to substantiate &#8216;facts&#8217; with PROPER references; and that Shockley was an &#8216;anti black&#8217;&#8211; has little relevance on his scientific methods.<br />
Don&#8217;t know why the media goes so bonkers even about American scientists whose grandparents once lived in India and waste no time in claiming the Nobel as an India earned one! They then count the spoils on a regional basis! It&#8217;s so mean.<br />
You approach to this &#8216;piece of news&#8217; is perfectly in tune to that of a scientist.<br />
Thanks Nayagam!</p>
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		<title>Comment on National Science Day(Celebrating Raman) by nayagam</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Amiya

The story in &quot;The Telegraph&quot; that you have linked to is so muddled in so many ways that it is difficult to decide what is its greatest flaw.

To start with, the whole article reads as if Bengal and Tamilnadu are the only states where Indian scientists live. There is no mention of  Harischandra or Khorana or Bhabha all of whom are comparable (and some might say superior) in their scientific stature to other scientists discussed in the article. I will be the first one to grant that regional
disparities in Indian science academia is a serious issue which has to be tackled. But, it is quite annoying if people just want to select facts that support their parochial hypotheses.

Next flaw that leaps out of the article is the shameless nobel-centrism which
stands as the primary motivation for the article at this point of time.
The only good reason to forgive the authors is the fact that this disease is 
quite common and is often left unchallenged. Again, national disparities in
science are a serious issue worth thinking about but I don&#039;t think there is 
much advantage to framing it as a question about nobel prizes. To think about
science in terms of nobel prizes suffers from same drawbacks as thinking about
education in terms of exams or thinking about politics in terms of elections. 


Coming to the particular statement which is attributed to Raman, I am 
surprised how the article basically renders both the primary and the 
secondary source obscure. Some unnamed scientist claims having seen 
copy of some letter whose existence the authors have not bothered 
to check and that seems all that is needed to frame an accusation !
We are told of &quot;Southern scientists&quot;, &quot;Bengal scientists&quot;, &quot;A 
senior scientist, who too did not want to be named&quot;, &quot;A physics
faculty member from Calcutta, who did not wish to go on record&quot; 
and the bulk of the article is built on such gossip. This might
be a fair material for tea-time gossip ( may be even a blog post)
but in my opinion, it is substandard material for a mainstream newspaper.

That is just to say that I have no reason to believe the particular claim. Having said that , let me add that I don&#039;t believe that Raman was a saint and given sufficient sources to buttress that claim , I find the claim to be a historically interesting one. If Raman did write a letter to Mountbatten, I would be very much interested in knowing what he wrote (and in what context). If this claim is indeed true, it raises historically interesting questions regarding Indian academia vis a vis partition. Raman&#039;s letter if it existed would be interesting for the same reason Newton&#039;s work on alchemy is interesting. But, till that claim is confirmed, there is not much point in baseless speculations.

And regarding your statement &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Can’t really think of this great man as harbouring so narrow views.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt; I can just say that it is probably too narrow to classify humans as entirely great or entirely narrow. The 
success of the methods adopted in science is that they are robust and they work for you even if you&#039;re not a saint. In that sense, it is easier to be a good scientist than to be a good human being...


With regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Amiya</p>
<p>The story in &#8220;The Telegraph&#8221; that you have linked to is so muddled in so many ways that it is difficult to decide what is its greatest flaw.</p>
<p>To start with, the whole article reads as if Bengal and Tamilnadu are the only states where Indian scientists live. There is no mention of  Harischandra or Khorana or Bhabha all of whom are comparable (and some might say superior) in their scientific stature to other scientists discussed in the article. I will be the first one to grant that regional<br />
disparities in Indian science academia is a serious issue which has to be tackled. But, it is quite annoying if people just want to select facts that support their parochial hypotheses.</p>
<p>Next flaw that leaps out of the article is the shameless nobel-centrism which<br />
stands as the primary motivation for the article at this point of time.<br />
The only good reason to forgive the authors is the fact that this disease is<br />
quite common and is often left unchallenged. Again, national disparities in<br />
science are a serious issue worth thinking about but I don&#8217;t think there is<br />
much advantage to framing it as a question about nobel prizes. To think about<br />
science in terms of nobel prizes suffers from same drawbacks as thinking about<br />
education in terms of exams or thinking about politics in terms of elections. </p>
<p>Coming to the particular statement which is attributed to Raman, I am<br />
surprised how the article basically renders both the primary and the<br />
secondary source obscure. Some unnamed scientist claims having seen<br />
copy of some letter whose existence the authors have not bothered<br />
to check and that seems all that is needed to frame an accusation !<br />
We are told of &#8220;Southern scientists&#8221;, &#8220;Bengal scientists&#8221;, &#8220;A<br />
senior scientist, who too did not want to be named&#8221;, &#8220;A physics<br />
faculty member from Calcutta, who did not wish to go on record&#8221;<br />
and the bulk of the article is built on such gossip. This might<br />
be a fair material for tea-time gossip ( may be even a blog post)<br />
but in my opinion, it is substandard material for a mainstream newspaper.</p>
<p>That is just to say that I have no reason to believe the particular claim. Having said that , let me add that I don&#8217;t believe that Raman was a saint and given sufficient sources to buttress that claim , I find the claim to be a historically interesting one. If Raman did write a letter to Mountbatten, I would be very much interested in knowing what he wrote (and in what context). If this claim is indeed true, it raises historically interesting questions regarding Indian academia vis a vis partition. Raman&#8217;s letter if it existed would be interesting for the same reason Newton&#8217;s work on alchemy is interesting. But, till that claim is confirmed, there is not much point in baseless speculations.</p>
<p>And regarding your statement<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Can’t really think of this great man as harbouring so narrow views.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p> I can just say that it is probably too narrow to classify humans as entirely great or entirely narrow. The<br />
success of the methods adopted in science is that they are robust and they work for you even if you&#8217;re not a saint. In that sense, it is easier to be a good scientist than to be a good human being&#8230;</p>
<p>With regards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on National Science Day(Celebrating Raman) by Amiya Sarkar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amiya Sarkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for a very easy-to-understand treatise on C. V. Raman and scattering. However, I was rather saddened to learn that he (Raman) had this parochial outlook about Bengal and Bengalis. So much so that he even requested Moutbatten that Bengal be seceded from India. Here&#039;s the link:

 http://www.telegraphindia.com/1091009/jsp/frontpage/story_11594747.jsp

Hope this is not true. Can&#039;t really think of this great man as harbouring so narrow views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for a very easy-to-understand treatise on C. V. Raman and scattering. However, I was rather saddened to learn that he (Raman) had this parochial outlook about Bengal and Bengalis. So much so that he even requested Moutbatten that Bengal be seceded from India. Here&#8217;s the link:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.telegraphindia.com/1091009/jsp/frontpage/story_11594747.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraphindia.com/1091009/jsp/frontpage/story_11594747.jsp</a></p>
<p>Hope this is not true. Can&#8217;t really think of this great man as harbouring so narrow views.</p>
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		<title>Comment on National Science Day(Celebrating Raman) by National Science Day, Anyone? &#171; Political Lunacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>National Science Day, Anyone? &#171; Political Lunacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on India to be the big, global power by the end of this century just consider:  India celebrates National Science Day every February 28th .  In memory of an Indian physicist who won a Nobel Prize 79 YEARS AGO!!! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on India to be the big, global power by the end of this century just consider:  India celebrates National Science Day every February 28th .  In memory of an Indian physicist who won a Nobel Prize 79 YEARS AGO!!! [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Feeling the touch of science by fhey</title>
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		<dc:creator>fhey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wat is it&#039;s summary??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wat is it&#8217;s summary??</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where the mind is without fear.. by sunil ramteke</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunil ramteke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Where the mind is without fear&#039; is a beautiful lyric
taken from the collection of poems &#039;Gitanjali&#039; originally written in Bengali but translated into English by Rabindranath himself. In 1913 he received a nobel prize for literature for &#039;Gitanjali&#039;,the only Indian who is honoured with a prestigious prize for literature.
The lyric &#039;Where the Mind is Without Fear&#039;is a devotional poem,in which Rabindranath Tagore prays God to liberate his countrymen from the age-old customs which mar the progress of his nation.He also prays god to inculcate the habit of logical thinking and should relieve them from the mentality of slavery of customs.He seeks complete freedom,a political and spiritual freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Where the mind is without fear&#8217; is a beautiful lyric<br />
taken from the collection of poems &#8216;Gitanjali&#8217; originally written in Bengali but translated into English by Rabindranath himself. In 1913 he received a nobel prize for literature for &#8216;Gitanjali&#8217;,the only Indian who is honoured with a prestigious prize for literature.<br />
The lyric &#8216;Where the Mind is Without Fear&#8217;is a devotional poem,in which Rabindranath Tagore prays God to liberate his countrymen from the age-old customs which mar the progress of his nation.He also prays god to inculcate the habit of logical thinking and should relieve them from the mentality of slavery of customs.He seeks complete freedom,a political and spiritual freedom.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where the mind is without fear.. by sujata</title>
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		<dc:creator>sujata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tagore&#039;s poem from gitanjali is a powerful expression of the liberal culture and richness of our freedom movement. Even after 60 years of independence this poem continues to be meaningful. Is there a tamil translation easily available?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tagore&#8217;s poem from gitanjali is a powerful expression of the liberal culture and richness of our freedom movement. Even after 60 years of independence this poem continues to be meaningful. Is there a tamil translation easily available?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where the mind is without fear.. by sunil ramteke</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunil ramteke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;where the Mind is Without Fear&quot; is a short lyric taken from &quot;Gitanjali&quot;.Here, the poet prays God to awaken his country from darkness and slavery into a state of ideal freedom.
    In this inspiring poem, the poet prays God for the spiritual emancipation of his country and countrymen.True freedom lies in a full and virtuous living.Therefore the poet prays to God that his countrymen should be fearless, truthful,rational, God-fearing,noble and generous. Knowledge should be free and there should be no divisions of caste,creed and nationality.The poet prays to God to give perfection to those who are working hard to achieve perfection without taking rest.Rabindranath Tagore prays God to help his countrymen to follow the path of logical thinking and not to indulge their mind in antique and outdated customs and traditions.According to Rabindranath Tagore,the outdated customs and traditions close the ways of progress. Hence his countrymen should leave behind all the outdated customs and traditions and should fill their minds with logical thinking to lead themselves on the path of progress.
      Rabindranath Tagore prays God that his countrymen should follow the divine way of progress and must involve themselves in right action and thinking.His countrymen should possess the universal mind and should leave behind the narrow thinking.Their mind should be liberated from all the narrow thinking and should accept the broad outlook.It is to be noted that the &quot;heaven of freedom&quot; for which the poet prays is not a heaven of political and economic freedom but of spiritual freedom from fear, narrow-mindedness and evil desires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;where the Mind is Without Fear&#8221; is a short lyric taken from &#8220;Gitanjali&#8221;.Here, the poet prays God to awaken his country from darkness and slavery into a state of ideal freedom.<br />
    In this inspiring poem, the poet prays God for the spiritual emancipation of his country and countrymen.True freedom lies in a full and virtuous living.Therefore the poet prays to God that his countrymen should be fearless, truthful,rational, God-fearing,noble and generous. Knowledge should be free and there should be no divisions of caste,creed and nationality.The poet prays to God to give perfection to those who are working hard to achieve perfection without taking rest.Rabindranath Tagore prays God to help his countrymen to follow the path of logical thinking and not to indulge their mind in antique and outdated customs and traditions.According to Rabindranath Tagore,the outdated customs and traditions close the ways of progress. Hence his countrymen should leave behind all the outdated customs and traditions and should fill their minds with logical thinking to lead themselves on the path of progress.<br />
      Rabindranath Tagore prays God that his countrymen should follow the divine way of progress and must involve themselves in right action and thinking.His countrymen should possess the universal mind and should leave behind the narrow thinking.Their mind should be liberated from all the narrow thinking and should accept the broad outlook.It is to be noted that the &#8220;heaven of freedom&#8221; for which the poet prays is not a heaven of political and economic freedom but of spiritual freedom from fear, narrow-mindedness and evil desires.</p>
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		<description>i am a 7 nth grader and i want the summary.please do help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a 7 nth grader and i want the summary.please do help</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Into the heaven of freedom my father let my country awake- the poem is tagore&#039;s prefound pray to god on behalf of his country and all humanitarian.
he believed that every one should be equal and not being divided into narrow domestic walls.
 
   we should all try to speak truth &amp; nothin but truth.
   
   knowledge is available to all and not just to some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Into the heaven of freedom my father let my country awake- the poem is tagore&#8217;s prefound pray to god on behalf of his country and all humanitarian.<br />
he believed that every one should be equal and not being divided into narrow domestic walls.</p>
<p>   we should all try to speak truth &amp; nothin but truth.</p>
<p>   knowledge is available to all and not just to some.</p>
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